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I'm sorry, but if you go back to any old medical text, 50's and 60's, you will find that medics said one shot for life. Even in the 90's they thought one shot. See this poster, 'Stop measles with just one shot'.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/visualculture/infectious30.html

The US Surgeon General, William Stewart, wrote a notice to parents in 1963, saying 'vaccinated ONCE, there is every indication that he is protected for LIFE from this dangerous disease' (measles). That was sent out to all American parents to encourage them to vaccinate.

That is what parents understood vaccination to be, to gain immunity to the illness so you don't get it. The definition of what vaccines do has loosened over the years. After they realised one shot would not do it, they then brought in boosters and now they say you can still get a mild case.

In fact, this paper says 'A vaccine generates an acquired active immune response leading to long-lasting (possibly lifelong) protection ' (which is obviously not true).

http://occmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/57/8/552.full

As the above study I showed you says, not having the rash doesn't mean you aren't infectious. You can still pass full blown whooping cough to a newly born infant.

Expression of symptoms such as rash in other illnesses is thought to be beneficial by some medical professionals, a way of releasing the toxins from the body. So for instance, not getting the rash in measles may cause a more serious illness:

' Immunocompromised patients may not have a rash and can develop severe, progressive giant cell pneumonia. Atypical measles syndrome usually occurs in people previously immunized with the original killed-virus measles vaccines, which have been unavailable since 1968. The older vaccines can alter disease expression after infection with wild-type measles. Atypical measles syndrome may begin abruptly, with high fever, prostration, headache, abdominal pain, and cough. The rash may appear 1 to 2 days later, often beginning on the extremities, and may be maculopapular, vesicular, urticarial, or purpuric. Edema of the hands and feet may occur. Pneumonia and hilar adenopathy are common and may be prolonged; chest x-ray abnormalities may persist for weeks to months. Symptomatic hypoxemia may occur.'

http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/infectious_diseases/other_viruses/measles.html

They say this only happened with the single measles injection but it is widely acknowledged, as you just said, that vaccines can result in a mildly presenting illness. This altered disease expression can cause a more severe type of illness, lasting months and with a higher encephalitis rate. Not having rashes is a sign of an altered immune response and is not good.

Vaccines also cause the diseases to mutate, so if you vaccinate against pertussis, it encourages another form, parapertussis to develop:

http://www.cidd.psu.edu/research/synopses/acellular-vaccine-enhancement-b.-parapertussis

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0006989

The CDC say this parapertussis is a more aggressive form, see the CDC page here:

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/15/8/08-1511_article.htm

So no, I don't think that can count as immunization. I think it is the alteration of the expression of the disease.

October 14, 2011 - 2:14am

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